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Application Note #791
Revision A
July 2021

Alisse Keypads – Round Backbox Installation Best Practices

Overview
Once installed, the Alisse keypad is a beautiful wall control designed to be elegant and discreet. To ensure the best installation possible, this document outlines the international Alisse keypad installation best practices.

Backbox Selection

Many backboxes are well-suited to be used for Alisse installations with some exceptions. To ensure that the keypad’s adapter will be able to cover the backbox and its installation, the backboxes used for one-column, two-column, and three-column units should have a diameter of 75 mm (3 in). In order to ensure spacing exists for the connector and wiring, the depth of any backbox should be greater than 35 mm (1.4 in). Alisse keypads ship with a special QS connector that allows them to be installed in a 35 mm (1.4 in) deep backbox. Using a standard QS connector requires a deeper backbox.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box -

Figure 1: Visual depiction of backbox size limitations.

International Style Round Wallbox:
Screw Spacing: 60.3 mm (2.4 in) (red arrows)
Recommended Lutron Part Number:
EBB-1-RD*
EBB-15-RD*

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - Round Wallbox

* Please reference page 9 for information on other manufacturer’s backboxes.

Wall Inspection and Preparation

One of the most important factors to consider in any Alisse installation is the flatness of the wall. A non-flat wall could be caused by various factors that include decorative wall coverings (tile, stone, etc.), plaster not evenly applied, plasterboard spackle applied but not sanded evenly, etc. This non-flat wall could create a gap between the adapter and wall or the faceplate and adapter. If the gap is too large, the snaps in one or more corners may disengage which will cause rocking, or in some extreme cases, the unit will not be able to be installed into the adapter or may disengage over time.
To confirm the wall you are working on is flat, we recommend using a straight edge and holding it against the wall at the desired installation location, as shown in the photo below. There should be no visible gap between the straight edge and the wall in the area of your installation. We recommend checking flatness in both the horizontal and vertical directions.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - evaluate wall flatness

Photo of straight edge used to evaluate wall flatness.

Cutting Holes in Wall

Debris or burrs left from hole construction can cause gaps to exist between the wall and the Alisse keypad.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - Cutting Holes in Wall

Before and after photos of debris and burr created during a dry-lined wall installation.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - deburred hole

Example of an installation with a flat wall and deburred hole.

Backbox Installation

Prepare the wall and backbox hole as described in the previous sections. Install the backbox to ensure it is as flat and flush to the wall as possible. The goal of this installation is to ensure that the unit cannot shift on the wall under normal use while minimizing the gap between the wall and the adapter.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - wall and the adapter

Example of a protruding backbox and its impact on the keypad.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - impact on the keypad

Example of an installation with a flat wall and flush-mounted backbox.

Mounting Screws

The Alisse keypad must be mounted using the horizontal (left/right) screw holes. It cannot be mounted using the vertical screw holes (if present), on your backbox.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - backbox

The backbox must be installed horizontally with the mounting screws being as level as possible.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - The backbox m

The backbox is mounted slightly rotated. The mounting screws are not level, therefore, the keypad will not be level.
There is limited adjustability in the adapter. Use a level to check that the backbox is properly mounted horizontally.
If not, you may be able to adjust it. For flag and flange backboxes or claw and flange backboxes, loosen the screws used to mount the backbox. Rotate the backbox slightly until the unit mounting screws are horizontal. Retighten the box mounting screws that secure it to the wall. If your backbox is a masonry-mounted box, it cannot be adjusted easily.
It would need to be uninstalled and reinstalled properly.

Mounting Screws (continued)

Flathead countersunk screws are preferable for mounting the Alisse adapter to the backbox. Lutron does not provide screws, as the screw size/thread pitch are not standardized across backbox manufacturers. Screws are provided by the backbox manufacturer.

The low profile of the flat countersunk screw head won’t interfere with the keypad assembly.
If your backbox is supplied with Panhead screws you will need to drive the screw so that the head does not protrude past the edge of the box.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - backbox manufacturer

Flathead countersunk – Preferred screw head type

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - Flathead countersunk

Panhead – Not preferred. If your backbox was supplied with Panhead screws see the following section for Best Practices with Panhead Screws.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - Panhead

Best Practices with Panhead Screws

For 1C and 2C units
Drive the Panhead screw in as far as possible while keeping the adapter arms flat against the wall surface. Do not overtighten such that adapter arms raise off the surface of the wall.

CORRECT
Adapter flat against the wall.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - urface of the wal

NOT CORRECT
Screw over-driven.
Adapter raised off of the wall.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - NOT CORRECT

For 3C units
For 3C units, Panhead screws should be driven in such that the top of the screw heads is flush with the lip of the backbox.

CORRECT
Panhead screw flush with backbox.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - CORRECT

NOT CORRECT
Panhead screw protrudes past backbox, not flush with backbox.

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box - CORREC2T

Manufacturer’s Backboxes (tested by Lutron)

Compatible Boxes
MakeModelMounting StyleDepth (mm)Base Unit FitCompatibility
SimetPV6OKFlags and Flanges39.GoodGood
Kaiser (Lutron)9064-01 (EBB-1-RD)Flags and Flanges62GoodGood
F-TronicsE135Flags and Flanges35GoodGood
Legrand0800-51Claws and Flanges50GoodGood*
Legrand0800-41Claws and Flanges40GoodGood*
Legrand080108/
080109
Masonry/No Flange40GoodGood*
Legrand0801-01Claws and Flange40Fits, but tightGood*
Legrand0801-21Claws and Flange50Fits, but tightGood*
Not Recommended Boxes
MakeModelMounting StyleDepth (mm)Base Unit FitCompatibility
Debflex718300Masonry/No Flange40GoodOk
Debflex718361Claws and Flanges40Fits, but TightOk
ELKOE135Claws and Flanges54GoodOk
VimarV71701Flags and Flange50GoodPoor
Non-Compatible Boxes
MakeModelMounting StyleDepth (mm)Base Unit FitCompatibility
Legrand080021 HClaws and Flanges40Will not fitNo
Debflex718361Claws and Flanges40Will not fitNo
ELKOE135Claws and Flanges48Will not fitNo

* See previous section Best Practices with Panhead Screws for use of backboxes supplied with Panhead screws.

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Lutron Electronics Co., Inc.
7200 Suter Road
Coopersburg, PA 18036-1299 U.S.A.
07/2021 P/N 048791 Rev. A

Application Note #791

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Documents / Resources

LUTRON Alisse Keypads Round Back Box [pdf] Installation Guide
Alisse Keypads Round Back Box

References

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